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Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

In questi giorni mi è capitato di configurare per un cliente una Alice Business Click l'offerta di Telecom che non prevede la fornitura del router (in passato questo tipo di offerte era noto anche sotto il nome di naked).

In particolare questo contratto prevedeva l'attribuzione di 8 indirizzi IP ecome di consueto dopo l'attivazione è stao consegnato un foglio con le specifiche del collegamento.

Indirizzo Punto-Punto (utilizzato per la connessione WAN) a.b.c.d e relativa maschera di sottorete, qui il foglio presentava un'inesattezza chiarito con l'Help Desk Interbusiness la subnet è 255.255.255.0 (e non 255.255.255.255) sempre tramite l'Help Desk mi è stato fornito anche l'indirizzo del Gateway a.b.c.254 (che non era riportato sul foglio). Non prendete per oro colato questi valori perchè mi pare di capire che possono cambiare in base al tipo di contratto, il consiglio è quello di sentire l'Help Desk per verificare i valori e chiedere al limite il Gateway nel caso non fosse indicato.

Indirizzi IP Lan (ovvero gli indirizzi Internet assegati) e.f.g.216 con subnet 255.255.255.248 ciò significa che:

  • e.f.g.216 è l'indirizzo di rete (non utilizzabile)
  • e.f.g.217 è il primo indirizzo disponibile e per convenzione viene assegnato al gateway e quindi lo assegneremo al modem/router
  • e.f.g.218 indirizzo disponibile per un host Internet
  • e.f.g.219 indirizzo disponibile per un host Internet
  • e.f.g.220 indirizzo disponibile per un host Internet
  • e.f.g.221 indirizzo disponibile per un host Internet
  • e.f.g.222 indirizzo disponibile per un host Internet
  • e.f.g.223 è l'indirizzo di broadcast (non utilizzabile)

VP/VC 8/35

DNS Server primario 151.99.1.125.2

DNS Server secondario 151.99.0.100

Per impostare un modem/router Linksys a connettersi ad Internet tramite una Alice Business Click utilizzando l'indirizzo IP e.f.g.217 occorre impostare le seguenti configurazioni (le impostazioni le ho provate su un modem AM200, ma gli apparati Linksys che ho avuto modo di vedere hanno tutti un'interfaccia simile, ad esempio l'Home Gateway Wireless WAG200G presenta pressapoco le stesse impostazioni):

  • Internet Setup
    • Encapsulation: RFC 1483 Routed
    • Multiplexing: LLC
    • Qos: UBR
    • VPI: 8
    • VCI: 35
    • DSL Modulation: G.dmt
    • Internet IP Address: a.b.c.d
    • Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
    • Default Gateway: a.b.c.254
    • Primary DNS: 151.99.125.2
    • Secondary DNS: 151.99.0.100
  • Network Setup
    • Local IP Address: e.f.g.217
    • Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.248

Print | posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:52 PM | Filed Under [ Tips IT ]

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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Grazie Alessandro, il tuo post mi ha aiutato a risolvere un'impasse che durava ormai da qualche ora e per la quale l'HelpDesk non mi è stato minimamente di aiuto (sembrava parlassimo lingue diverse, mi hanno portato addirittura fuoristrada cone le loro indicazioni approssimative).

Grazie ancora, ciao
2/26/2008 5:09 PM | Giorgio
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Io ti sconsiglio di usare gli indirizzi pubblici per la rete interna, questa configurazione serve nel caso si debbano gestire gli IP pubblici (mail server, web server etc), ma rete interna deve essere collegata alla rete pubblica tramite un firewall ovvero un dispositivo che ha una connessione sulla rete pubblica e una sulla rete privata.
Il cliente delle rete privata accederanno a Internet tramite NAT (altrimenti gli IP pubblici non potrebbero essere sufficienti).
AM200 o il WAG200G possono già fare da firewall ma utilizzare gli ip pubblici di solito lo si fa solo a livello domestico.
2/26/2008 7:20 PM | Alex
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Concordo sul fatto di non usare IP pubblici per risorse locali (stampante) ma la configurazione NAT-ted non sono riuscito a farla funzionare. Ho proprio un WAG200G e il Local IP Address devo impostarlo proprio su e.f.g.169 pena il non funzionamento del tutto. Non idea di come creare una rete privata 192.168.*.* e farla vedere, passando dal firewall, alla subnet e.f.g.*... :-(

Grazie, ciao

Giorgio
2/26/2008 8:58 PM | Giorgio
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Quel che conviene fare aziendalmente è usare un apparato che rende disponibile la rete pubblica di solito è il router del provider, ma vi sono offerte che non lo prevedono quindi occorre configurare un ruoter di proprietà.
A questo router si connette poi un apparato che fa firewall e che connette la rete pubblica con quella privata proteggendola.
Il discorso è che le reti in questione sono tre la punto punto la pubblica e quella privata e per connettere due reti server un router quindi servono due router
2/26/2008 10:03 PM | Alex
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

A questo punto hai provato a vedere se riesci ad assegnare nella sezione Network Setup
ip su una rete privata (tipo 10.x.x.x) per vedere se ti fa nat (risolverebe il problema di Giorgio).

Io la configurazione l'ho testata su una Alice Busines Click di un cliente, però all'inizio non funzionava
e il supporto tecnico mi aveva detto che dovevano fare una modifica sui loro POP.
Fatta questa configurazione e senza cambiare nulla nella mia ha funzionato, può essere che se
avessi impostato fin da subito la tua configurazione avrebbe funzionato...
2/26/2008 11:24 PM | Alex
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Credo che si possa tranquillamente usare un indirizzamento privato.
Pero' bisognerebbe poi nattare la rete privata che esca tramite l'ip address settato nell'internet setup.

Giorgio dovrebbe fare due prove.
La prima e' questa senza NAT:
Usare la mia stessa configurazione ma settare come Local Ip address un indirizzamento di classe privata con dhcp abilitato.
Testare se con un client dhcp esce magari con un ping su 4.2.2.2
Se questo non va' provare a sostituire il default gw nell'internet setup con un ip successivo a quello usato come IP Adress sempre nella stessa configurazione.

Se cosi' non va' credo che l'ultima spiaggia sia quella di tentare la configurazione del nat della lan interna cosa che e' possibile ma che non ho provato in quanto come te avevo la necessita' di IP pubblici nella mia Lan.
In effetti quando si configura il Local IP address non fai altro che settare il GW della tua lan interna ma se poi questo non e' nattato sul pubblico non esce, almeno che questo AM200 sia abbastanza intelligente da capire che quello che sta' sulla lan "deve" andare su internet e crei nat automatico.
Bhooo mi sto' perdendo , bisognerebbe fare qualche prova.
Ciao
2/26/2008 11:58 PM | luca
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Se intendi agiunger un computer con IP pubblico (a patto che ti siano stati assegnati un numero di IP sufficienti) colleghi il Modem ad uno switch (o Hub) e assegni ai due computer gli IP pubblici
4/11/2008 4:12 PM | Alex
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

CIAO mi è successo una disavventura:volevo aprire delle porte con il linksys 200wag nel computer di un mio amico,sicche metto il http://192.168.1.1/ e mi chiede user e password che di solito sono admin-admin,come del resto c'è scritto dietro.sicche inserisco i campi ma.......non funziona,sicche mi sembra strano allora decidiamo di resettare il router.Riproviamo ad entrare nel http://192.168.1.1/ e ora inserendo admin admin funziona.problema non si connette piu cioe, si connette l'icona della connessione wi fi,ma internet no ed il led di internet infatti è l'unico rosso.
grazie in anticipo spero che possiate aiutarmi...
4/28/2008 12:15 PM | Zeno
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Se hai rimesso le impostazioni di fabbrica hai perso le configurazioni relative alla connessione ad Internet e devi reinserirle
4/28/2008 2:13 PM | Alex
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Salve,
ho provato tutte le configurazioni postate, ho un'alice business 7mega con 8IP assegnati...
a me servirebbe uscire con un IP fisso su cui vorrei collegare tutti i PC del negozio, come facevo prima con la SMART1...
l'apparecchio che utilizzavo e ancora vorrei utilizzare è un LINKSYS AG241 v2.
Vi sarei infinitamente grato se poteste darmi una guida di configurazione soprattutto per la parte NETWORK.

Questo è davvero un ottimo servizio, anche per i più profani della materia come me...
Grazie

Aalessandro
12/13/2008 12:42 AM | Alessandro
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

....ancora........


riesco solo a navigare tralasciando la punto-punto ed usando gli ip pubblici (i 6 degli 8 a disposizione), abilitando il nat ed una classe privata per i pc della rete interna. Questa punto-punto proprio non mi sconfinfera niente di buono. :( Ma io sono uno niubbo in queste cose, anche se è già da un pò che spippolo sui router. ;)



bye
6/12/2009 1:41 AM | Davide
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Nel mio caso 255.255.255.255 non era corretta, ma conviene sentire il supporto Tecnico anche per avere più informazioni possibili, meglio se riesci ad accedere al supporto tramite l'ausiglio di un commerciale
6/12/2009 8:02 AM | Ermanno Goletto
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys


Ok, ho sistemato la questione come subnet alla wan ho messo 255.255.255.0, come ip x.x.x.91 e come gateway quello predefinito che mi ha dato la Telecom x.x.x.90 (ossia la punto-punto). NAT disabled, e come ip del router quello pubblico (dei 6 a disposizione), il gateway degli IP assegnati (mascherato col .248 finale).
Ora però ho il problema del centralino vo-ip che pare non esca con l'ip pubblico assegnatogli, non vorrei che il linksys bloccasse qualcosa (il firewall è disabled). :(

bye
6/12/2009 8:40 PM | Davide
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

Cari tutti avrei bisogno di aiuto:

ho effettuato un contratto naked (il router che ho comprato e il linksys ag 241 ver 2.0) con telecom alice businness con 8 ip statici riporto i parametri che ci sono sul foglio telecom:
ip/lan 83.192.189.216-223
subnet 255.255.255.248
gateway 83.192.189.217
ip/punto punto 95.89.123.230
subnet 255.255.255.252
ip punto punto nodo 95.89.123.229

8/35

dns 151.99.125.1
151.99.0.100


Ho inpostato il router rcf 1283 routed
ho dato al router l'ip punto punto e impostato la lan sulla classe degli otto ip statici
ho abilitato il nat
disabilitato il firewall
tutto funziona a meraviglia i pc vanno su internet navigano a meraviglia.
adesso pero' ho bisogno di raggiungere questi pc da remoto,ma se digito l'indirizzo ip lan non c'e risposta. l'unico indirizzo che mi risponde e quello punto punto del router.
se vado in advanced routing e provo a inserire nella routing table la classe ip lan al momento di salvarli mi dice che i parametri sono errati.
se qualcuno mi puo' dare qualche dritta lo ringrazio molto
ciao
andrea

8/8/2009 11:08 AM | andrea
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

OK..... su questo router ci sono due pc una telecamera e uno strumento gps con un'interfaccia web
con ip 83.192.189.218 primo pc
219 secondo pc
220 camera
221 strumento web embedded
se vado in giappone vorrei essere in grado di comunicare con tutti questi ip ma non mi riesce, lunico che mi risponde e l'ip del router 95.89.123.229 che sta su un'altra classe. se ti va di aiutarmi ti posso dare anche il vero ip del router username e password cosi' gli dai un'occhiata.
oppure dammi una spiegazione un po' piu' dettagliata per adesso provo a impostare il router come hai detto tu vedo almeno se riesco a raggiungere i 2 pc.
Grazie per l'aiuto
Andrea
8/10/2009 9:19 AM | andrea
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# re: Configurazione Alice Business Click su Modem/Router Linksys

ho provato a fare quello che mi hai detto o quello che ho capito
application e gaming
port range forwarding
start 0 end 65535 (le ho aperte tutte per non sbagliare)
protocol both
ip addresses (quello del pc)

niente di niente
Avro' capito io male forse confuso da tutte le cose che ho letto nelle varie lingue per la rete.

Ciao
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